December 7th, 2006 by James Omdahl
Yesterday we had the chance to preview what our Yahoo! Search Marketing account looks like on the new “Panama” ad platform…and it was bad. In truth, the switch from the old Direct Traffic Center (DTC - the old Yahoo! ad platform) to the new Panama platform will basically render our account unusable.
Why? It all comes down to AdGroups.
But first a little background. The Yahoo! DTC had two levels of organization for their accounts - the campaign level and the keyword level. This was imperfect at best, since most advertisers ended up with a few thousand keywords in a single campaign. Yahoo! recognized that this was a problem and designed the new Panama interface with three levels of organization - campaign, keyword and AdGroup. If this sounds like Google AdWords, it should, since Yahoo! basically copied AdWords when designing much of Panama.
I think most advertisers would tell you that having another layer of organization in their Yahoo! account is a good thing…but going from the old DTC setup to the new Panama setup brought up a huge issue - who do you assign advertiser’s keywords into AdGroups when they move over to the Panama platform?
I don’t think there could have been a simple answer to this…but the solution that Yahoo! devised was, well, imperfect at best. In the end, Yahoo! decided that any keywords in your campaigns with similar advertisements would be grouped together into an AdGroup. Not a bad solution, except for the fact that many Yahoo! PPC advertisers have been writing custom ads for many of their keywords (a best practice for Yahoo!) - which means that every keyword might very well end up in an AdGroup of its own. And that, my friends, would pretty much stink.
And stink it does. Upon hitting the preview button to see what our Yahoo account would look like, we realized that our campaigns had hundreds of AdGroups under them. For example, we had a health insurance related campaign with 1,050 AdGroups in it…and those AdGroups were packed full of unrelated keywords. So basically, our Yahoo! account has become a giant, fat and ugly mess.
After a lot of nervous laughter from our Paid Search team, we started to strategize to see how we could fix the account. After much discussion we realized that taking our account as it was and getting it back into shape would likely take weeks of tedious work. This is not acceptable in my book.
In effect, Yahoo!’s Panama switchover has turned our Yahoo! PPC account into an unusable pile of AdGroup junk. Way to go Yahoo!
The good news is Yahoo! was smart enough to develop an import feature in Panama that allows advertisers to import their Google AdWords account into their Yahoo! account. At first I though this would be a great way to get AdWords advertisers who had yet to try out Yahoo! Search Marketing to try it out. Now I am realizing that many current Yahoo! advertisers will be forced to utilize this AdWords import function to completely rebuild their Yahoo! account…which means throwing out all of the work they have done on their Yahoo account. Ouch.
While this is an easy fix, it pains us to throw away the many of hours of work we spent building our Yahoo! account…and it hurts even more that we have to do it just because Yahoo! couldn’t find a better way to make the transition work.
So, are we the only people who have had their Yahoo! account blown up by Panama? Let us know by leaving a comment!





December 8th, 2006 at 7:51 am
james, is everyone going to have to move to the Panama platform? do you know when the full implementation is? Last, who might this affect? can one stay with the old platform?
December 8th, 2006 at 8:47 am
Is there a simple way to avoid this aggregation problem? Its easy to download complete categories in the “old” Yahoo. If I did that, and just set the same title and ad for all related keywords, would the default set of Panama ad groups become better then?
At what level do you download items in Panama - can you download a complete category, or just by ad group? If you could download a whole category it could be simple to move things around.
December 11th, 2006 at 8:36 am
Hey April -
Everyone will be moved to the Panama platform by some point in Q1…I am not sure if 100% of accounts will be moved over by the end of this month, but I think that was the goal.
I have a feeling this will affect all Yahoo! advertisers in one way or another. On a positive note, if you are a Google AdWords advertiser and dont have a Yahoo! account, it will be very easy to start up a Yahoo! account now (using the import function).
December 11th, 2006 at 9:04 am
Thanks for commenting Magnus.
Your suggestion about downloading the account and is a good one as long as you have a manageable account to work with. In our account we have thousands of keywords in each campaign (each campaign represents an insurance type), so the process of organizing would take many, many hours. However, if you are working with an account that has been organized better than ours, and if you have the patience to group your words together, your method would be a lot better than trashing the whole account.
As far as downloading goes in the new interface, it looks like you can do it on a campaign and Ad Group level…so if ordering things from the campaign level would help you out, then that’s a plus. For us, we just seem to have too many words and too many ads to make sifting through it worthwhile.
Ah well, our AdWords accounts do well. In the long term this will be a good thing.